Give Yourself Permission To Play! | Ep 68

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Imagine getting up every day full of energy is

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if you were in your 20s. Again, what would that be like? What

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would that be worth to you? What is your health worth to you?

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Welcome back. Melissa, Delia here the host of the don't wait

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for your wake up call podcast and I'm excited to bring you

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another wonderful guest today. Today I'm introducing you to Deb

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king of the wisdom playground. Welcome, Deb.

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Thank you, Melissa. So excited to be here.

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Though, as you can probably hear her lovely

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Australian accent. It's very early in her morning as we're

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recording this episode. So extra special. Thanks for being here.

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And Deb is the co founder of the wisdom playground a new era

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business incubator that supports coaches and healers to create

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greater ease, profit and impact. Deb describes herself as a

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happiness ambassador. How amazing is that? And

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enthusiastic human with a passion for music, travel life,

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people and all things uplifting. Her unconventional career

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includes being a bouncer, nightclub manager in London,

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through to other leadership sales and marketing roles. And

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across the past 20 years, she has coached, mentored and

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trained 1000s of people globally as a transformational master

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coach, as I said, from Australia, so no wonder Deb has

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become a wonderful friend of mine over the last couple of

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years since we met online. And given that this month is the

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theme of play. I thought that Deb and the wisdom playground

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would be a fabulous episode for everyone to be further inspired

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to bringing more play into our lives. So welcome, Deb.

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Thank you, and how great Yes, to encourage everyone

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to bring more play into our lives can't have enough.

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Exactly. And they've been working on this

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theme myself, it's really made me realize, you know, like,

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where did that little six or seven year old girl go, right?

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And we have these societal norms or expectations of adults. And,

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you know, what if we just let our inner child out to play and

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didn't care about what other people thought and then we could

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have so much joy in the moment instead of feeling like, we

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can't show that wonderful emotion and I love the idea of

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just walking past the schoolyard. And you hear the

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laughter. So much laughter. Right. So I want to encourage

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people to get back to that.

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Blackley in general, it's kids that are having the

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most fun, we're actually asked to bring our our more laughter

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more play. In the wisdom playground, we call it an adult

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thing.

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I love it. There you go. I love it. So I would

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love for you to share your story because as you said, you've got

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a little bit of an eclectic background that has brought you

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into being this human enthusiast and happiness ambassador, so

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please share.

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So okay, so I grew up in Sydney. And I feel like I

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always was on a happiness inquiry. I wanted life to be fun

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and and I was a big party animal as a late teen like 17 to 30

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actually. And I really, really did give that a good crack. As

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as you said, I lived in London, I worked in nightclubs in music

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industry, and I really had some big time partying and eventually

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realized that I wasn't fully fulfilled. And that's when I

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started to look within and in 2003 I came back to Sydney to

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become a life coach. And then I've been on this huge personal

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development, spiritual development entrepreneurial

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development journey ever since And what I had realized is prior

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to this journey I had been seeking externally for

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happiness. And that's not where you find it. And so it has been

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a really interesting journey. Because I also was very

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judgmental of myself, I was very much critical to myself very

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mean to myself, and thankfully have learned not to do that. But

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also, I just

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want to stop you there, because how many people

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relate to that right now. Because that's kind of the way

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we naturally tend to go is to beat ourselves up for every

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little thing, and be super judgmental and super critical of

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ourselves and not giving ourselves any grace, or any

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space or stopping to celebrate the baby steps. And yet, we

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don't do that to others. Right, we're celebrating others. And we

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don't allow ourselves to celebrate ourselves.

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Yeah, two really key things there. One is to we judge

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ourselves, time to stop it. And the other thing is to celebrate

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more be, celebrate all day, every day and appreciate and

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celebrate. And when we focus on that, we get more of that. So

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yes, those things are actually super key, key pieces to having

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a better life and a healthier life.

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It's something that I'm learning this year,

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actually, at the end of last year, I was on an event, I don't

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even remember what it was. And somebody said, to have a wind

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wall. So I've created a wind wall for 2022. And I have it

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over here and I see it every day. And, you know, that's kind

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of where I celebrate my little wins doesn't matter how small

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they are, but they're my wins, right? I achieved something, et

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cetera, et cetera. And it goes on my wall. And so I thought

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that was a brilliant idea in a way to bring that more to the

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forefront for me, right. So even as you and I talk about this, I

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hear you saying it's a journey, it's been almost 20 years for

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you, right? And so for other people listening, we're all

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still working on this.

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It's not a destination. It's an ongoing practice, to

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keep noticing how we're feeling what we're saying to ourselves

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and keep choosing because if we can fall into old habits of

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being mean to ourselves or judging ourselves, Well, I'm

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gonna assume it's old habits for everyone from now, okay.

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But yeah, to actually notice that because we can then choose

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differently, we can choose to focus on what we actually want,

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rather than what we don't want, we can actually choose to what

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we could celebrate or appreciate rather than what we want to

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complain or whinge about. And it makes it an incredible

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difference of where we're focusing. That's

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absolutely. And to your point, too. Sometimes

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people don't know what they want, because they spent but

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they do know what they don't want. But because they're

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spending so much time focusing on what they don't want, they

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haven't ever looked at it from the other side of what they do

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want.

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And it's worth considering if you are looking,

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you don't know what you want. But you know what, you don't

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want to actually go well imagine you don't like that's not

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happening anymore. What would you love to have happening? And

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even if you don't get the answer straightaway, just being the

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inquiry, of allowing that the messages to come to guide you to

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that. And you'll notice how you feel when it's expensive and

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light versus contractive. And heavy start to notice in your

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body. Because our body is guiding us and I think that I

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make the joke that everything that happened BC before COVID

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needs a refresh. Trying to make that stick Melissa. But we're in

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a new era, we are and I agree with you. Anything that is bc we

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were very much about thinking and being in our head and doing

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and and, and there's some value in that. But it's actually even

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more valuable when we bring our whole selves to the to the

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party, like our energy, our body, our everything is guiding

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us not just our head, our head can be very limited. When we can

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really tune into our heart and infinite wisdom and potential

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that we have access to. magic can happen and very quickly. And

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so it's starting to get to know how to tune into that more. It's

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so powerful.

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And sometimes it's the heart and sometimes

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it's also the unconscious mind, right? We get stuck in the

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conscious mind. But when we get out of the conscious mind and

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into our unconscious mind, we can also allow ourselves to be

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guided and as you say it's very powerful and that's where the

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quantum leap forward can happen.

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Yeah, I just told him Got it from the heart, because I

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think it's an easy way to access that unconscious. Right? I can

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using the breath, right? Yes, leaving just focusing on

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breathing, imagining you're breathing in through your heart

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and out through your heart. And very quickly you're present,

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you're in your heart, you're out of this small conscious mind

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limited to accessing the infinite possibilities and

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solutions that are available in every moment. It's so cool, we

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have so much more potential than we've been accessing. And it's

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very exciting to actually start to give ourselves permission to

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play with that and explore that.

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I love that. I love that. And a couple of

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episodes ago, I had somebody on who was talking about this as

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well, it was Lisa Brewer, and she was talking about, you know,

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being in the flow, right. And then she actually, her mantra,

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if I don't screw it up is give permission to your purpose to

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provide for your purpose.

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Nice, which I

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really liked as well. And when we do get into

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that place of flow, and we're in our heart, and all of these

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resources are available to us, as you said, we can do so much

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more. And with greater ease. Yes, and with more fun.

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That's the thing, that's that's actually what's

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available to us. If it's not easy. If it is struggle, then

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it's possibly a sign that's not the path that that moment, it's

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like we're actually being guided all the time. It's noticing and

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being aware and allowing, allowing the, like you say the

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flow, really, the ease,

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exactly. And that's also something I'm

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working on, because I'm very much someone who was raised and

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spent, you know, all of my corporate years in my head, it's

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kind of the expectation, it was just the norm as a not to

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mention the norm of, well, we pay you for 40 hours a week

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because you're on a salary, but we actually expect you to get

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all of the work done that we're giving you. And if it takes 60

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hours, then you got to do it, you got to stay in work for 60

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hours, right? And that whole societal mindset that you're

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supposed to work harder to show your dedication, as opposed to

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that it's actually meant to be easy. So like, I'm having to

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undo all of that learning as well. Maybe that's part of my

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adulting adulting adulting.

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Yeah, well, I think that most of us have been

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conditioned, to work hard to be in the struggle to always be in

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our head, that it's actually we haven't, we haven't actually,

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it's not been okay to feel your feelings. It's not been okay to

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be vulnerable. It's starting to be there's a growing

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consciousness of that, which is fantastic. Because emotions are

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important. It's energy, emotion, we are energy, and so actually

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not needing to judge emotions, and we don't need to suffer in

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them and be them. But to actually allow ourselves to feel

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and express is a very healthy thing. Because if we don't, as

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you know, we don't allow those feelings to be expressed, then

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they're going to store in the body and come out in some level

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of dis ease.

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Absolutely. It's interesting, because they're

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running a detox program right now with some people. And it's

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amazing how quickly some people start to release the emotions in

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a detox program. Right? That's not why they started doing it.

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It's not what they were expecting. But it's what's

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coming up. Which is wonderful, right? Because they're in a

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place where they're now allowing those those emotions to start to

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release, which that's

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the pathway to them being in full health. Right,

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exactly. How is it? They haven't expressed them that they're

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having whatever challenge they're having? So it makes

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total sense to hear that? Yeah.

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Yeah. So it's been 10 years of a journey for

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you. Can you share some highlights some aha moments or

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pivotal moments as you have been on this path to creating the

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wisdom playground? Because I know the wisdom playground is a

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BC. Business, right? Sorry. pandemic, baby. Yes. That's

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relatively new. So what were the pivotal moments that got you to

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where you're at today?

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Yeah. So yeah, the last 20 years I've been in the

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coaching industry. And absolutely, you know, back then,

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when I started, lots of people hadn't even heard of what that

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was. It's so great that there's been such a growing evolution of

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awareness of lots of people kind of actually learning to become

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more self aware and interest Did in their own growth and, and

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things like that. So I have been doing many great things through

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that time in coaching and training. And

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I'm gonna jump in there too, as well, just to

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say that it's there's a greater awareness in people that they do

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better when they work with someone else who's already been

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there, right. And there's not any shame in that it's actually,

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you know, courage to go, Hey, this is what I want to do. This

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is where I want to go, who can get me there the fastest. So

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again, it's looking for that ease, right, and recognizing

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that everyone needs coaches, we have coaches in from community

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sports as a child or school sports, right. And we've had

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business coaches for years, and all these different types of

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coaches. And now people are recognizing, it's okay to have a

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coach in my life, and it's actually going to advance me

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faster, which is

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a great thing to have multiple coaches in. To focus on

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absolutely and. And we're as humans, we're not meant to do it

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alone, we have been conditioned to be very independent and

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compete. But actually, we're here to collaborate and bring

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each other's the best of each other out. And I suppose that's

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what happened with the wisdom playground is when, when the

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world changed. My beautiful businessman and Gary and I were

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talking and and we wanted to focus on reinvention and

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consciously creating new and better ways, rather than just go

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back to the old. And rather than what happens if we don't

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consciously create something new, we will just repeat what we

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know. And so here is an opportunity, anything is

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possible, the fact that what happened in 2020, if you ask

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yourself, would you have thought that was possible before it

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happened? I would say most of us would say absolutely not, I

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totally would not have thought that could have been possible

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what has happened in the world? I would agree. I would agree.

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Yeah, that shows anything is possible. So we can actually

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create the dream, we can actually create the most amazing

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world where everyone is supported and thriving, that is

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actually possible. And it takes a conscious creation, and it

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takes us all tapping into the best of our humanity. It takes

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us tapping into collaborating together. So I like that you

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said you know we Yes, we we all benefit from coaches and support

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and doing things together rather than some things. It's good to,

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you know, it's also you need some stuff alone. However,

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there's too much independence and competition in the VC world.

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That keeps us separate, divided and conquered, you know, it's

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time to unite, collaborate and actually co create. And so the

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pivotal moments have been, I've always been unconventional. So

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I've always wanted things to be done in different ways. I

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haven't really followed the path of the mainstream or the way

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they say you should, should do it, whoever they are. But yeah.

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So I was always gonna mature then. This happened in 2020, on

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very different plans, I was on my way to wanting to spend a lot

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more time in Hawaii. And anyway, this has happened and what

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happened with the wisdom playground has been quite

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magical. Because it's sort of it unfolded through us. It's not

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like Gabby and I said, let's create a business together. It

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was just through conversation and ideas that when we were

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playing with started with the singles party on Zoom called

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singles. I think I attended one of them. I don't think you

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attended that one. But you did attend one of our collaborative

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learning parties, which has then led into us having a beautiful

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new era business incubator membership, with amazing

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coaches, healers and New Era wisdom teachers that doing

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incredible things on the planet, and were always explored, like

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it's a really healthy environment, to explore how to

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do new and better ways in business that make business

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easier and more profit and greater impact. So yeah,

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exciting.

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I love that you're creating that to support

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the coaches that are trying to do more, right, because

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sometimes it's hard to get out and be heard and be seen, above

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all the noise that's out there. But when you collaborate, and

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you find your tribe and everybody's working together, it

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makes it much much easier. That's right.

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And it's typically in general, the coaching industry,

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coaches and healers are not making a lot of money and we

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want to change that so they're fully thriving. They can help

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more people now navigate these crazy times and have everyone

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thriving. So it's it's driven by that. And we have some unique

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wisdom around supporting them in that. But it's also those that

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might be not even coaching yet. So say they're in corporate, and

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they've got all this wisdom and experience, and they need

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support to package their wisdom. That's another opportunity.

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Because everyone has wisdom to share right now, whatever

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experiences we've been through not just the recent training

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we've done, our whole life has had wisdom, experience and ways

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we can contribute to another human. And it's time for

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everyone to start sharing that.

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Absolutely. And I look at it as everything is

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happening to us for a reason, and bringing us to the point in

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time where we're at. So everything that happened,

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whether you deemed it as good or bad, is something that adds to

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your wisdom that you now have to share with others.

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Exactly. And that's what you said, whether you if

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you deem it good or bad, we label things good, bad, right?

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We're the ones creating the judgment. And it's just time to

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drop jugs, judgments and transcendent judgment is the

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thing that's in the way of so much goodness, really. It's so

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incredible. I love it. And actually, you know, you said a

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critical moment. One of them was my very first life coaching

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course. I actually heard this chant the story of the Chinese

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farmer about judgment. Have you heard of it?

Melissa Deally: 00:21:36

Please share, I will share

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my version. So essentially, this Chinese farmer

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and he had a his son living with him and a horse and the horse

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ran away. All the neighbors came around and go, Oh, isn't that

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terrible, your horses run away. And the Chinese farmer said

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maybe the next day, the horse actually came back with seven

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wild horses. And so now they have eight horses, and they

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thought the neighbors come around. And so he's amazing. You

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go to these horses and the farmers like maybe the next day,

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the sun is breaking in one of the horses and falls off and

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breaks his leg. And all the neighbors come around, say, oh,

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isn't that terrible, your son's broken his leg and the farm is

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like maybe the next day, the military come along, trying to

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get everyone all the abled men to join the military and they

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couldn't take the sun and all the neighbors great. He's on

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can't go off to military up. The farmer says maybe so I that that

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story has just, I just love because I was very judgmental. I

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was very judgmental person. And I'm if I don't check myself, I

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can still be judging. However, it's so peaceful when I don't

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judge and it's so powerful. And it's something that I feel is a

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pathway to an amazing life when we can transcend judgment. And

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so and it is yeah. Definite. Helps helps being more playful

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when we don't judge ourselves.

Melissa Deally: 00:23:18

And it's funny because I have heard that story.

Melissa Deally: 00:23:20

And I've heard it very recently. And it wasn't a Chinese farmer.

Melissa Deally: 00:23:24

I heard it as an Albertan farmer, but the same

Unknown: 00:23:30

well, then clearly was told by Canadian

Melissa Deally: 00:23:36

but the same messaging, right, which, you

Melissa Deally: 00:23:39

know, is so important. It's maybe let's see what happens

Melissa Deally: 00:23:43

especially when we take it as everything's happening for us.

Melissa Deally: 00:23:46

Why is this happening? What can I learn from this? You know,

Melissa Deally: 00:23:49

you're not going to know it in the moment as in the case of the

Melissa Deally: 00:23:52

story, they realize the next day right and it might not be the

Melissa Deally: 00:23:56

next day for you. It might be a week down the road, it might be

Melissa Deally: 00:23:58

a year down the road. Look back. There's so many moments in your

Melissa Deally: 00:24:02

life that you look back with that 2020 hindsight and you're

Melissa Deally: 00:24:05

actually grateful for them. In the moment you're like, oh my

Melissa Deally: 00:24:10

god, this is awful. This is the worst thing ever. So how much

Melissa Deally: 00:24:13

time was wasted and emotional turmoil did you go through

Melissa Deally: 00:24:17

thinking oh my god, this is the worst thing ever as opposed to

Melissa Deally: 00:24:20

like you say getting into that place of non judgment and

Melissa Deally: 00:24:24

finding peace and acceptance instead.

Unknown: 00:24:27

Yeah, I'm I have found when I remember everything is

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happening for me even when it's really shitty. It's so helpful

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to get through those times and when we do look closely, there

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is always gifts blessings, positives that come from

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everything. And I noticed that as well working with Gabby in

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the wisdom playground every time we come up with a what we would

Unknown: 00:24:52

see as a block. It hasn't gone the way we wanted. It's always

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an upgrade. Yes. Incredible. It is so incredible. It's not

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exactly what our mind thought we wanted to see the bigger

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picture, it's actually better and leads to better in the

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future. So it's such a, it's a gorgeous, gorgeous way to look

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at things.

Melissa Deally: 00:25:14

Exactly. So every time we think it's a block

Melissa Deally: 00:25:18

or something holding us back is actually just getting us to take

Melissa Deally: 00:25:22

the leap forward.

Unknown: 00:25:24

Yeah, and especially for I see coaches, healers, New

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Era wisdom teachers that are wanting to support people in

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their area of wisdom. When they come up with a challenge, it is

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often something to learn so they can help their clients, they

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don't have to make themselves wrong or bad, or like, it's so

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interesting how that happens all the time, as well. So it's

Unknown: 00:25:49

really cool when we're aware of that, because it does make the

Unknown: 00:25:52

journey of the challenging bits a bit easier.

Melissa Deally: 00:25:55

Exactly, exactly. If you're enjoying my

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content, and someone that wants to step into being proactive in

Melissa Deally: 00:26:05

your health and learning more, I would love to invite you to join

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my membership community. There's a link in the show notes for

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only 1999 a month, you get access to all of my content. And

Melissa Deally: 00:26:15

there's a lot as well as weekly calls that you can come and get

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your health questions answered.

Melissa Deally: 00:26:21

It's truly priceless. And love to see you join the community,

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check out the link in the show notes.

Melissa Deally: 00:26:27

So talk to me about how you bring play into the wisdom

Melissa Deally: 00:26:33

playground, but into your daily life.

Unknown: 00:26:37

Cool. Yeah. So I feel that as I mentioned before, that

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heart breathing and really noticing what is going on for us

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and our body and our, our what feels, what feels the yes, what

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feels the know and to be guided as much as possible, as often as

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possible throughout the day. I mean, we can be guided every

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step if we choose to, which is so cool. So that is playing with

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the universe, from my perspective playing with with

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it, because it's just so fun when we do it. But it's also

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doing the things that light us up that is and so the more

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tuning we are we the more we know what does and what doesn't.

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And there's so many common things to look at. Like for me

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dancing, I love to dance, I love to laugh, I love nature, getting

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in nature, exercising, moving, and body. All those things are a

Unknown: 00:27:38

beautiful ways to play and allow more possibility into into our

Unknown: 00:27:45

world as well. Some people like to do creative projects, I think

Unknown: 00:27:50

that's something that I, I have been quite focused on working

Unknown: 00:27:56

and I have some creative projects. Now it's like, Okay,

Unknown: 00:27:59

it's time to actually carve out some time and prioritize some of

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that, because we're actually always creating that's as humans

Unknown: 00:28:09

we're always creating, so why not consciously create and be in

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the playfulness of creating, and it comes back to not judging it

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because I remember one time I went to first time I went to

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life drawing where there's a nude model, and you bring your,

Unknown: 00:28:27

whatever you want to draw with, like the paper and whatever,

Unknown: 00:28:32

using pencils and crayons, whatever. And I just love it, it

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was so it was just so fun to be doing that. And I was looking at

Unknown: 00:28:41

my thing going, I'm not bad at this. And then when I walked

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around so some people who are like proper artists, I can help

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with this. I was like, oh, okay, I'm not great at it. But however

Unknown: 00:28:51

art it can it's in the eye of the eye of the viewer, right?

Unknown: 00:28:56

What's something good to someone not to say? And it's like, well,

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that's the same with life as well. Right? And so just to have

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fun with it means it's a great use of time. And other other

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insights can come to us when we're not trying to focus and

Unknown: 00:29:14

push and struggle and, and, and really work hard. I feel even

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this month of a that I've had just the month that's gone. I

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had more time off and actually have done better financially and

Unknown: 00:29:31

I've had more fun and I've had and it's like ah, so good to

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have this. Working harder is not always better. And so yes,

Unknown: 00:29:45

that's sort of lifestyle wise, it's good to have our own

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practice of making sure we're doing some stuff that we love

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that makes us feel good that that lights us up. In the wisdom

Unknown: 00:29:56

playground. We like to bring that vibe to at all, all things

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that we do in our communications and in our events, which we call

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parties, we like to bring that energy. And it's something that

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we can always add more ideas to, and how to do it. One of the

Unknown: 00:30:18

things that we like to do now and then is a, an improv game,

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you know, with that? Where we Yes, and, yeah, so it's like a

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topic. And then I say something, and then you would say yes, and

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then you'd add to it, and then I say yes, and and add to it, and

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then you kind of it's a brainstorming thing that allows

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really crazy, crazy answers. But those crazy answers can actually

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be really brilliant, you know, some of them comes up with new

Unknown: 00:30:50

things. So,

Melissa Deally: 00:30:52

or a smarter? next idea. Right? Exactly. It's

Melissa Deally: 00:30:56

actually comes back to what you were saying earlier for people

Melissa Deally: 00:30:59

that, you know, they know what they don't want, but they don't

Melissa Deally: 00:31:02

know what they do want. And you're saying, you know, sit

Melissa Deally: 00:31:05

with that and think about it and spend some time with yourself on

Melissa Deally: 00:31:08

that. And what's really important there is to treat that

Melissa Deally: 00:31:11

like you would any other brainstorming session. So allow

Melissa Deally: 00:31:14

any idea to flow. If it sounds too outlandish to you don't shut

Melissa Deally: 00:31:18

it down and push it away. Let it flow. And then you can even

Melissa Deally: 00:31:23

build on that. You can do the Yes. And with yourself with the

Melissa Deally: 00:31:26

thoughts that are coming. And yes. And and then what's next,

Unknown: 00:31:29

right? And another one is what if so what if

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everything? Because what if it could just magically become

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better than you even imagined? And what if it was blah, blah,

Unknown: 00:31:43

blah. And so that's a similar kind of concept, but it might

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resonate even more. Right.

Melissa Deally: 00:31:51

And it just allows the mind to keep opening

Melissa Deally: 00:31:55

and opening and opening and opening? And get into that

Melissa Deally: 00:31:58

expansive place.

Unknown: 00:32:00

Yeah. And that's, that's the beauty of empowering

Unknown: 00:32:03

questions, though. The what, who, where, how, when that into

Unknown: 00:32:09

possibility, those empowering questions are really cool to

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expand, expand our mindset. So that we can tap into far greater

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than what's happened before. And that's the that's the

Unknown: 00:32:26

opportunity, we have so much more, as I said, before, so much

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potential, every single human has access to far more potential

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than we're tapping into. So that means you, me, everyone, like we

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will and expand beyond where we have before it can keep getting

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better, can keep getting more magical. It's so, so exciting.

Unknown: 00:32:49

We are we are at we are living at a very, very exciting time on

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the planet.

Melissa Deally: 00:32:55

We are and I agree that there's so much more

Melissa Deally: 00:32:59

realization to this right now. And more and more people are

Melissa Deally: 00:33:04

opening to the expansiveness of it to the fact that there is

Melissa Deally: 00:33:08

abundance on this earth. And we can just, you know, get into

Melissa Deally: 00:33:13

that place of ease and flow to build that abundance. And as we

Melissa Deally: 00:33:16

do it in collaboration, we're helping other people get there,

Melissa Deally: 00:33:18

too. And we all rise up together.

Unknown: 00:33:24

Absolutely. And actually say, saying that, you

Unknown: 00:33:28

know, I'm, I'm a big fan of the open questions. I'm also a fan

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of the empowering affirmations. Because I said, it's been a

Unknown: 00:33:35

great month.

Unknown: 00:33:37

I've been saying to myself, my life is fun. And it has been,

Unknown: 00:33:45

it's like really work getting that one stuck in your head.

Melissa Deally: 00:33:50

I love that. And How simple is that? How simple

Melissa Deally: 00:33:53

is that? Right? And, you know, what, if you stop and think

Melissa Deally: 00:33:57

about the thoughts that you're typically saying to yourself,

Melissa Deally: 00:34:00

how much more fun is it to say that thought to yourself instead

Melissa Deally: 00:34:04

of what you're typically saying to yourself,

Unknown: 00:34:06

and it's extra fun when you've said it for a little

Unknown: 00:34:08

while, and then you stop noticing, oh, this is far more

Unknown: 00:34:12

fun than what was before. Like, it's actually amazing.

Melissa Deally: 00:34:19

Yeah. So do you have any suggestions for people,

Melissa Deally: 00:34:24

whether they're, you know, coaches, or solopreneurs, or

Melissa Deally: 00:34:28

even still in the corporate world, that, besides the mantra,

Melissa Deally: 00:34:32

anything else that they can take and easily implement in order to

Melissa Deally: 00:34:38

bring fun into their work environment? Is it like maybe

Melissa Deally: 00:34:42

it's breaking up their day in some way? What do you suggest?

Unknown: 00:34:45

Yeah, so we, we talked about judgment. So it's one of

Unknown: 00:34:48

the things it's time to let go of. So notice when we're judging

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and instead of judging, get curious, so and get curious with

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those questions of I like what you said, What am I here? What

Unknown: 00:35:02

am I? What can I learn from this? Or how is this serving me?

Unknown: 00:35:06

Or I don't know, the any open question or the wadi thing or

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the yes ending or the, you know, the it's like move out of

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judgment into curiosity as often as possible, really notice,

Unknown: 00:35:19

because also notice when we're doubting ourselves, who many of

Unknown: 00:35:24

us are actually, really like, we're all capable of incredible

Unknown: 00:35:30

things, we're so amazing, yet we get in our own way, by doubting

Unknown: 00:35:35

ourselves. And so if you notice down in yourself, just laugh

Unknown: 00:35:38

every time you doubt yourself, laugh at it, because the first

Unknown: 00:35:42

time I had that strategy, I was laughing a lot that day, so it

Unknown: 00:35:45

was good.

Melissa Deally: 00:35:49

And we knew how healthy laughter is for us. And

Melissa Deally: 00:35:51

I've said this many times before. So regular listeners

Melissa Deally: 00:35:54

will have heard me say it before, but it's worthy of

Melissa Deally: 00:35:57

repeating that just one Fun Minute of laughter boosts your

Melissa Deally: 00:36:01

immune system for 24 hours. And one minute of fear or stress, or

Melissa Deally: 00:36:07

anger will weaken it for four hours. And in that fear, stress

Melissa Deally: 00:36:11

and anger, I would even put doubting ourselves. Because when

Melissa Deally: 00:36:14

we're doubting ourselves, we're probably drumming up a little

Melissa Deally: 00:36:17

bit of fear and a little bit of stress, right? Or that there.

Melissa Deally: 00:36:20

And that's why we're doubting ourselves. And that's weakening

Melissa Deally: 00:36:23

our immune system for four hours. So yes, erase it with

Melissa Deally: 00:36:27

laughter. That's brilliant.

Unknown: 00:36:28

Yeah, and so also know about doubt. If you're doubting

Unknown: 00:36:33

that potentially means you're actually trusting in the belief

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you don't prefer. So perhaps there's no doubt perhaps it's

Unknown: 00:36:43

just trust in something. And you might as well trust in what you

Unknown: 00:36:48

want, rather than that belief that you don't prefer the doubt

Unknown: 00:36:51

because that does not feel good. doubting ourselves does not feel

Unknown: 00:36:54

good. So stop it. Let it go back to BC and from now on, no more

Unknown: 00:37:01

doubt, and just go for it and play because it's like it when

Unknown: 00:37:05

we can let go of judgment of the result. It it means if it goes

Unknown: 00:37:11

bad or wrong, bad wrong, which we're labeling it, it doesn't

Unknown: 00:37:15

matter. So there's a beautiful movie on Disney called Soul.

Unknown: 00:37:19

Have you seen that one, Melissa? Okay, so go check it out. It's

Unknown: 00:37:25

such a reminder that our souls come here to experience life to

Unknown: 00:37:30

experience the senses, to taste the pizza, to smell the roses to

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do all the things, and they fall over and hurt themselves. But it

Unknown: 00:37:38

doesn't matter. It's like, it's like, we're just here to live

Unknown: 00:37:41

and experience and create and enjoy. And and that comes back

Unknown: 00:37:46

to if we can just not make a big deal about everything, and not

Unknown: 00:37:50

make it like that let go of the making the meaning and the

Unknown: 00:37:54

judgments about everything. It just becomes so much easier. And

Unknown: 00:37:59

so I would say practice that really noticing, are you

Unknown: 00:38:03

judging? Or are you in curiosity, and just really start

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to tap More into curiosity with asking better questions, playing

Unknown: 00:38:13

with possibilities, using your breath, choosing what feels good

Unknown: 00:38:19

to you, what lights you up, giving yourself permission to do

Unknown: 00:38:22

that celebrating and appreciating every step you take

Unknown: 00:38:25

in that direction. And let me know how you go.

Melissa Deally: 00:38:32

I love that. I love that so many gems in that

Melissa Deally: 00:38:36

last five minutes right there that are brilliant. Thank you.

Melissa Deally: 00:38:41

And I just want to come back to somewhere in there you were

Melissa Deally: 00:38:44

talking about, you know, the judgment. And I was hearing like

Melissa Deally: 00:38:48

the not doing thing, the doubt is because we're fearing

Melissa Deally: 00:38:51

something right? And the feeling is coming up because it's not

Melissa Deally: 00:38:54

the right path for us potentially. And so we need to

Melissa Deally: 00:38:57

stop and figure out what the right path is. But also to know

Melissa Deally: 00:39:00

that we don't need to fear what might happen. And so often

Melissa Deally: 00:39:05

that's fear of failure or not achieving the goal or whatever

Melissa Deally: 00:39:08

it is because there really is no failure. Yeah, it's simply an

Melissa Deally: 00:39:13

opportunity for feedback. That's right, from which we learn and

Melissa Deally: 00:39:18

then keep moving forward. And so that's a huge piece of that of

Melissa Deally: 00:39:25

being able to choose that recognize that and step into it

Melissa Deally: 00:39:31

anyway.

Unknown: 00:39:33

That's right. So it's like be present in the moment to

Unknown: 00:39:36

feel if it's a yes or no for you to take that action. So you will

Unknown: 00:39:40

know if you feel lighter and more expansive. Or if you feel

Unknown: 00:39:44

heavier and more contracted. You can start to learn your yes and

Unknown: 00:39:47

no. If it's a yes, you just go for it. And it doesn't matter

Unknown: 00:39:52

what happens. Like let go of the outcome, the judgment of

Unknown: 00:39:56

whatever happens all of that and trusting. It's the next And

Unknown: 00:40:00

it's, it's all good, then take the next step. It doesn't have

Unknown: 00:40:06

to be that odd, our mind can make it really challenging.

Unknown: 00:40:10

Yeah, we don't have to do that anymore. Yeah,

Melissa Deally: 00:40:14

I love it. Well, I love all of the work that you

Melissa Deally: 00:40:16

do, and the wisdom playground and the support that you're

Melissa Deally: 00:40:18

giving to coaches and others that are, you know, in their

Melissa Deally: 00:40:22

businesses so that everyone can collaborate and serve more

Melissa Deally: 00:40:27

people as a result, right. And so, as we start to wrap up here,

Melissa Deally: 00:40:32

I love to ask my guests, what does don't wait for your wake up

Melissa Deally: 00:40:36

call mean to you.

Unknown: 00:40:38

For me, that means be proactive in designing the life

Unknown: 00:40:44

we want, actually, our health is so important. And actually, we

Unknown: 00:40:53

can make positive steps towards that today. And if we don't, as

Unknown: 00:41:02

you say, if we keep going down a path that is unhealthy, we will

Unknown: 00:41:07

get a wake up call. And it happens from the the universe is

Unknown: 00:41:12

total, I say universe, some people say, God or whoever,

Unknown: 00:41:16

whatever they want to call source, different all the

Unknown: 00:41:21

different names for for that. But for me, the universe will do

Unknown: 00:41:24

it for now. So the universe will give us messages, and it starts

Unknown: 00:41:28

with a whisper. And then it gets louder can become a pebble in

Unknown: 00:41:32

any kind of a brick and bouldering brick house on top of

Unknown: 00:41:37

us and that wake up call is not pleasant. So why wait for that?

Unknown: 00:41:42

Like, why? Why Why? Why not listen now?

Melissa Deally: 00:41:50

Back to what you're saying? Yeah, you know,

Melissa Deally: 00:41:53

listen now and tap into your body and learn that yes or no

Melissa Deally: 00:41:56

role. And when we work with our body in this way, that's when we

Melissa Deally: 00:42:02

do get to be in that flow state. And it's when we get to have

Melissa Deally: 00:42:05

optimal energy and optimal health because we're in

Melissa Deally: 00:42:08

alignment. That's not fighting ourselves. Love that

Unknown: 00:42:14

thing, that energy alignment is so powerful and

Unknown: 00:42:19

such a fun way to live life. And we all have that ability to

Unknown: 00:42:24

choose that. It's so it's available to every single one of

Unknown: 00:42:29

us. And that's why it's so great. The work you're doing,

Unknown: 00:42:31

Melissa, because for those who haven't listened can get on

Unknown: 00:42:36

track now with you. But those listening to the podcast well

Unknown: 00:42:40

done, because yeah, you don't have to wait till it gets really

Unknown: 00:42:44

bad, like, start doing the fun stuff now.

Melissa Deally: 00:42:47

And I love what you said too, is choose you get

Melissa Deally: 00:42:50

to choose, right, everything is a choice. And that comes back to

Melissa Deally: 00:42:56

when we believe that things happen for us, not to us, we're

Melissa Deally: 00:42:59

not blaming, right, and we can see the choices. That's right.

Melissa Deally: 00:43:06

And there are always choices, even when we think it's the

Melissa Deally: 00:43:10

worst day ever. There are still choices, right? choices on how

Melissa Deally: 00:43:15

you respond to that and choices to how you move forward. So

Melissa Deally: 00:43:19

that's a really important point as well, that it's, it's all a

Melissa Deally: 00:43:24

choice. So I love it, love what you're doing. So thank you,

Melissa Deally: 00:43:29

thank you so much for being on the show. But before I let you

Melissa Deally: 00:43:31

go, please tell the audience how they can get ahold of you. And I

Melissa Deally: 00:43:35

believe you have a free gift for the audience as well.

Unknown: 00:43:38

Yes, we do. So our website is the wisdom

Unknown: 00:43:42

playground. So T H E wisdom playground.com. And I'd be

Unknown: 00:43:48

delighted to connect with anyone on social media and all those

Unknown: 00:43:51

types of things. I'm Deb King, we have a freebie. If you're a

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coach or healer of some description, we have an amazing

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guide for you that shows you what the greatest coaches on the

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planet do differently to everyone else, the ones that are

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super successful, what they do to everyone else. And that's a

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free guide. It's 19 pages where you get to see those things and

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rate yourself on those things. So that would be the first

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freebie for everyone else. We have a little play cheat sheet

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for us with some reflection questions just to kind of

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actually play with in terms of your inquiry around playing

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more. So that's available as well and very excited to connect

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with anyone who wants to discuss this topic or share actually,

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please

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definitely

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if you apply anything we've talked about, I'd love to hear

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how you go. So yeah, very excited to always meet like

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hearted humans that want to thrive.

Melissa Deally: 00:44:53

I love that. Thank you so much. And I'll make

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sure the links to both are in the show notes. And yeah,

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Pleased to the audience if you are implementing any of this

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from our discussion today, please share it on social tag

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Deb tag myself, because we'd love to celebrate that with you.

Melissa Deally: 00:45:11

It's definitely something to celebrate. And Deb, what last

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tip would you like to leave the audience with to have them step

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into this and get started today?

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I would love to say is you are here, there is no

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mistake that you are here right now you have so much love in

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your heart and wisdom to share more than you even realize. And

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actually just give yourself permission to now live your best

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life ever moving forward.

Melissa Deally: 00:45:46

Love that. Beautiful way to end the show.

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So inspirational. Thank you so much for joining us here today,

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Deb. And thank you to the audience for joining us here and

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